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cordelia_v ([personal profile] cordelia_v) wrote in [personal profile] lolaraincoat 2007-06-27 09:55 pm (UTC)

We will talk, yes. But for now, responding to your comment (and also to your response to Fab and Amelia):

You say over and over (to me and them) that "oh, I'm not talking about you or myself or all our friends or all these other women we know, who have negotiated a far better deal for themselves. I'm talking about marriage in general."

Any generalization to which there are so many, many exceptions is really suspect. I mean, the devil is in the details. And the details? Really don't hold up, where Twisty's screed is concerned (from my POV).

I agree with Kai, below, who argues that the master's tools can dismantle the master's house, in this case. She is rightly critical of how Twisty just derisively dismisses all the examples that contradict her thesis, that she knows of, by slighting those couples.

I found that post really condescending, vague, and not grounded in the realities that I know. Also, very much written by someone whose viewpoint is informed only by theory, and not by any lived experience.

I agree that a good welfare state helps. Yes. But the bottom line is that childbearing and childrearing is work. Perhaps those who engage in it need to be compensated by the community as a whole, which brings to mind Susan Pederson's work on maternalist feminism in interwar France, where an unlikely coalition of Catholics, feminists, and labor union leaders forced a reworking of the pay packet, to transfer income to those who had children.


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