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lolaraincoat ([personal profile] lolaraincoat) wrote2008-10-15 11:32 pm
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The debates are over and thank God for that

The Democrats Abroad with whom we watched the debate again got really rowdy at every mention of Canada in this debate. Canadian oil WHOOO!!!!! Canadian HEALTH CARE YEEEEE-HAW!!!!!1!

Otherwise, three four points:

First, did anyone else notice McCain's completely unnecessary and factually inaccurate mention of the "tragedy in Dallas," i.e. the Kennedy assasination? He had to drag in some comment about Kennedy having had plans to debate Goldwater before he was killed, but that seems implausible at best because Kennedy died just about exactly a year before the election, at which point Goldwater wouldn't have been the Republican nominee, right? So why bring it up? I think it was like when Clinton's campaign, in its waning days, brought up Robert Kennedy's murder - playing on our mostly-unspoken fear that Obama is going to be killed, suggesting that we shouldn't vote for him because he might die if elected.

Second, the pundits afterward kept calling Obama "professorial" as if that were a bad thing. *sigh*

Third, John loves Joe. Joe the Plumber is clearly just a shaky rhetorical screen for his real true once-in-a-lifetime romance with Joe Leiberman. But Joe Six-Pack will do.

eta Fourth, what the hell was all that about Colombia? If you only count legal agricultural imports to the US, the "biggest trading partner" is Mexico. If you add in the value of illegal agricultural imports - some of which McCain or his debate-prep team appears to have ingested - then the biggest importer to the US would be, well, who knows, really? but my guess is, still Mexico. The biggest importer of US-grown agricultural products is Canada. Doesn't everyone know that already? Is McCain already prepping for a post-politics career shilling for South American tourism or something?



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[identity profile] twotoedsloth.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, that Kennedy comment was weird, creepy and puzzling. Did you hear about McCain's hilarious interview with the Spanish reporter, btw?

[identity profile] winterthunder.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
The one where he refused to meet with Zapatero? My money's on his extensive foreign experience failing him. Or perhaps his memory. Cause, y'know, Spain's not that offensive, if you ignore all the people smoking. :D

[identity profile] lolaraincoat.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, that, yeah, I knew about that! But then I forgot!

[identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
He seems to think that Spain is located somewhere in South America, and not to be either in Europe or allied to the US. When Obama brought that up in the second debate, McLame muttered 'horseshit'.

[identity profile] jackoweskla.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
What's awesome is that John McCain hasn't even talked to Joe the Plumber. But Barack Obama explained his whole tax policy to him. And then Joe went and called FOX News to complain about it.

[identity profile] lolaraincoat.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, great links, that you! Man, the web is a weird and speedy place.

[identity profile] winterthunder.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
Republican plant? Y/N

I mean, who thinks to call any news outlet just because you talked with a candidate?

[identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, indeedy.

[identity profile] twotoedsloth.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Oh God yes... Columbia! That was weird too.

Actually, the Spain thing was back in September, but I just heard about it. Basically, the reporter asked him if he planned to meet with Zapatero, and he makes it pretty clear that he regards Spain as a potentially troublesome part of Latin America. Here, if you like, is the youtube link. The fun starts at minute 3.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WItI9It_Swc

[identity profile] lolaraincoat.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
The best thing about this election is that everything in the world that ever happened is now on video on youtube. Thanks!

[identity profile] centeroffate.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Sir, you're no Jack Kennedy. ;)

[identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
He's no Ted Kennedy.

[identity profile] hederahelix.livejournal.com 2008-10-16 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I sort of now want a t-shirt that says "You say professorial like that's a bad thing."
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[identity profile] idlerat.livejournal.com 2008-10-19 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
I twittered:

the way Barry Goldwater and Jack Kennedy agreed to do, before the intervention of the tragedy at Dallas - wtf? STOP MAKING SUGGESTIONS 10:37 AM Oct 16th from web

Team C Poll Reminder

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Hi! If you could fill out the Team C poll for this week (http://community.livejournal.com/fanaticize_c/131423.html), that would be great. Our points are due by midnight PST. I hope you had a good week fanaticizing. :)