Yeah, I see what you mean, and I think when it comes to the canonical texts you are absolutely right.
You may be giving the fic too much credit, though - really, it seems more like just thoughtless writing based on the assumption that everything was always the same until the author was about 15, and then everything started changing very fast. Or else these writers are doing it because they want to write a romance in which the lovers have to overcome an obstacle, and having Steve Rogers come from The Past, When Nobody Ever Had Sex Because It Was Not Allowed, is a useful obstacle. I'm not going to give specific examples because I am not that mean, but let's just say ...OK, I'll say this: I'm not fishing around randomly in Avengers fics but reading only those fics which people on my friends lists recommend.
I have never gotten though more than, like, ten pages of Epistomology of the Closet. Maybe fifteen. But I highly, highly recommend Gay New York - really, I think you'd enjoy it! And one of Chauncey's points, with which I agree, is that there was not always a "pervasive terror" attached to being a person who desired someone of the same sex. (I am trying to avoid the historically specific term "gay" here, is why the clunky forumlations.) Sometimes there was. Often there was for some people but not for others, even within the same communities, depending on class, gender, ethnicity, religion and race. But that pervasiveness of terror which Sal suffered from, and which led to the flowering of gay and lesbian liberation movements from the late 1940s onward - that's an artifact of the Cold War. At least Chauncey persuaded me so.
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Date: 2012-06-14 04:46 pm (UTC)You may be giving the fic too much credit, though - really, it seems more like just thoughtless writing based on the assumption that everything was always the same until the author was about 15, and then everything started changing very fast. Or else these writers are doing it because they want to write a romance in which the lovers have to overcome an obstacle, and having Steve Rogers come from The Past, When Nobody Ever Had Sex Because It Was Not Allowed, is a useful obstacle. I'm not going to give specific examples because I am not that mean, but let's just say ...OK, I'll say this: I'm not fishing around randomly in Avengers fics but reading only those fics which people on my friends lists recommend.
I have never gotten though more than, like, ten pages of Epistomology of the Closet. Maybe fifteen. But I highly, highly recommend Gay New York - really, I think you'd enjoy it! And one of Chauncey's points, with which I agree, is that there was not always a "pervasive terror" attached to being a person who desired someone of the same sex. (I am trying to avoid the historically specific term "gay" here, is why the clunky forumlations.) Sometimes there was. Often there was for some people but not for others, even within the same communities, depending on class, gender, ethnicity, religion and race. But that pervasiveness of terror which Sal suffered from, and which led to the flowering of gay and lesbian liberation movements from the late 1940s onward - that's an artifact of the Cold War. At least Chauncey persuaded me so.