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[personal profile] lolaraincoat
Hello! I'm not going to respond any further to comments on this post. The most relevant information -- which I think can't be found elsewhere -- is now collected in short form in this post here. Thanks to all who contributed information and links. This was extremely interesting, and I'm going to bed now.

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Good morning everyone! This post has evolved into a listing of journals affected by Strikeoutgate. Please comment if you know of any that are not on the lists here. I may add related information and commentary as time allows and the spirit moves me, or I may not. But all I really want to do here is come up with as complete and accurate a listing as I can. I am categorizing the journals by their intent (primarily intended to support child abuse and pedophiles, or not) so please advise me if I've gotten that wrong. Thanks for all your help so far, and thanks in advance for your further assistance!


Two consecutive posts on my f'list complain that Livejournal just purged the community [livejournal.com profile] pornish_pixies and two journals which were part of an entirely unrelated role-playing game, [livejournal.com profile] lightning_war, for Terms-of-Service reasons. (See [livejournal.com profile] ataniell93's recent unlocked post for the Lightning War story and two recent unlocked posts by [livejournal.com profile] femmequixotic for the Pornish Pixies mess and LJ's explanation to her of why they permanently suspended the community.)

This is worrying. Anyone else heard anything about these or related incidents? Who else out there has gone missing?

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eta.1 Two communities that requested not to be named here were deleted by mods, not suspended by lj. The same goes for [livejournal.com profile] sirry (now moved to GreatestJournal), [livejournal.com profile] hp_incest, [livejournal.com profile] hpslash, [livejournal.com profile] grave_robbers and [livejournal.com profile] chimeracafe too.

eta.1.a The same might be true for [livejournal.com profile] yaoi_drabbles, [livejournal.com profile] demoncest, [livejournal.com profile] batwingcurls, [livejournal.com profile] cpop_slash, [livejournal.com profile] love_or_death and [livejournal.com profile] sg1_rps -- that is, they recently have been deleted by mods, for reasons that may possibly be related to this current mess, but they were not suspended by LJ and I don't know if the deletion had anything to do with Strikeoutgate or not.

eta.1.a.i Turns out SG1-RPS was deleted by its mod several months ago for unrelated reasons. Also [livejournal.com profile] dirtydrabble's mod is about to delete the comm for reasons unrelated to Strikeoutgate, and the mod of [livejournal.com profile] ppettigrew deleted the comm last month for reasons unrelated to Strikeoutgate..

eta.2 Two people so far from a couple of my friends' flists also suspended: [livejournal.com profile] yaoi_slut and [livejournal.com profile] lynntownsend. Also suspended and apparently part of fannish circles: [livejournal.com profile] onewavebreaks, [livejournal.com profile] malakijr, [livejournal.com profile] athena2693, [livejournal.com profile] pushtyber, [livejournal.com profile] joeykaiba and [livejournal.com profile] omg_a_terrorist.

eta.2.b And here is a list of 22 other suspended individual journals, all belonging to members of ageplay communities (some of whom may have been pedophiles, but some apparently harmless consenting-adult fetishists.) Scroll down; the list is the first comment you'll see.

eta.2.c Besides the two RPG character journals from [livejournal.com profile] lightning_war which were suspended, and another journal from a different HP RPG which was deleted by the mod as a precaution, a charcter journal for a Hikaru no Go character, [livejournal.com profile] ogata, was also suspended.

eta.5 Hey, might this be related to the current fight over deletion between the US govt and MySpace? Probably not, at least not directly. It's much more likely to be LJ's response to the ... well, see ETA #6.

eta.6 Liz Marcs has a fascinating post about her exchange with an entity which seems to be devoted to internet purification, and which is probably related to all this, over here. The sequel to Liz Marcs' post is here. The apparent miscreants disclaim responsibilty. Hmmm.

eta.6.a The organization (or person calling herself an organization?) with which Liz Marcs was communicating now says that LJ "has shut down hundreds of ... sites" at their behest (link redacted because their site has mucho malware, reportedly.) I'm not seeing anything like those numbers. What or who have I missed?

eta.6.b And see also this website for another group pushing LJ to delete journals. This one seems better organized and more legit, but still confused about the difference between fannish/literary expressions and social, political or material support for child abuse.


eta.7 these were fannish/literary comms:

[livejournal.com profile] shota suspended.
[livejournal.com profile] wonkaslash suspended.
[livejournal.com profile] brokenboys suspended.
[livejournal.com profile] resident_pervs suspended.
[livejournal.com profile] lolita07 (a Spanish site for the discussion of the Nabokov novel!) suspended.
[livejournal.com profile] lol_porn suspended.
[livejournal.com profile] heterocest suspended.
[livejournal.com profile] artsnarry suspended.
[livejournal.com profile] incestories suspended.
[livejournal.com profile] boysfuckingboys suspended.
[livejournal.com profile] afamilyaffair suspended.
[livejournal.com profile] sbrb_blackcest suspended.
[livejournal.com profile] pornish_pixies suspended.
[livejournal.com profile] master_badtouch suspended.
[livejournal.com profile] gimmehellopro suspended.
[livejournal.com profile] riddle_torture suspended.


these were, as far as I can tell, comms intended primarily to support and/or encourage pedophilia:

[livejournal.com profile] childlove suspended - this one was a genuine pedophile site, rather than literary or fannish.
[livejournal.com profile] incestuouslove suspended. What kind of comm was this? A genuine pedophile comm.
[livejournal.com profile] disgusting_lust suspended. What kind of comm was this? Another genuine pedophile site.
[livejournal.com profile] little_children suspended. Pedophiles. About a third of its 68 members either were suspended or deleted their journals.
[livejournal.com profile] ljincest suspended. Pedophiles.
And fifteen other comms supporting pedophilia, rape and/or bestiality, which are listed here, in a comment from intrepid researcher [livejournal.com profile] iverin whose stomach and google-fu are both very strong.


and these comms were ... I can't tell. Anybody?

[livejournal.com profile] ____loli_lovin
[livejournal.com profile] violentboylove
[livejournal.com profile] fetishconfess
[livejournal.com profile] rape_porn
[livejournal.com profile] ageplaywithsex
[livejournal.com profile] razorblade_jinx

eta.8 [livejournal.com profile] heidi8 helpfully dug up the DNS information of the group that's probably responsible for some or all of this; it's here. (I very rudely linked to Heidi's post when it was locked, and she very graciously unlocked it. Thanks Heidi!)

eta.9 Does this seem like something Mina de Malfois would make up, or is that just me?

eta.10 [livejournal.com profile] jamoche is keeping track of responses from LJ Abuse to owners of deleted comms/journals over here. You can post anonymously there and responses are screened.

eta.11 [livejournal.com profile] dorrie6 has started a comm on Greatestjournal (friendslocked) for discussion of all this: Fandomtossed is here.

eta.13 [livejournal.com profile] bookshop would like mods of suspended comms and individuals whose journals were suspended to get in touch with her or with [livejournal.com profile] femmequixotic - they're organizing a collective response by the affected parties, I believe. See also this post on [livejournal.com profile] fandom_lawyers

eta.14 Many posters have been linking to this blog's list of suspended LJs. It's not complete and not entirely accurate, but it's got a lot that aren't up here. Lots of names, too, at this post on [livejournal.com profile] innocence_jihad, the point of which seems to be to demonstrate that support communities for survivors of incest and rape seem not to have been suspended in the big purge.
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Date: 2007-05-29 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ataniell93.livejournal.com
If you want to know whether a journal has been suspended or deleted, click on the link, and you will see a page that either says "Deleted Account" or "Suspended Account". [livejournal.com profile] afamilyaffair was suspended.

Date: 2007-05-29 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolaraincoat.livejournal.com
All I get from that link is the "you are not authorized to view this" page.

Thanks for the info, though. This is very odd.

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Date: 2007-05-29 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ataniell93.livejournal.com
Also, here is the text of the email from LJ Abuse:

Dear LiveJournal user boot2thehead,

Your journal and/or its associated profile or interests has been reported to us as containing material which expresses interest in, solicits, or encourages illegal activity. As this is a violation of both LiveJournal's Terms of Service and United States law, we have permanently suspended the journal.

If we become aware of any additional violations of LiveJournal's policies or United States laws in the future, we reserve the right to permanently
suspend any other journals you may have and terminate your account without warning.

Regards,
Cassie
LiveJournal Abuse Team

Date: 2007-05-29 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolaraincoat.livejournal.com
Thank you for passing this along. It's awful, but it's so interesting, at the same time, you know?

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Date: 2007-05-29 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logovo.livejournal.com
The Spanish com [livejournal.com profile] lolita07, dedicated to the slow reading and discussion of the Nabokov novel, has also been suspended.

Date: 2007-05-29 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolaraincoat.livejournal.com
Ay caray. Mil gracías para las fechas y hechas, de todos modos.

Date: 2007-05-29 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ptyx.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] artsnarry was suspended too. I'm linking to you, thanks for organizing this list!

Date: 2007-05-29 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolaraincoat.livejournal.com
Thanks for the linkage!

It just seems important to keep a record, you know?

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Date: 2007-05-29 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spare-change.livejournal.com
WHAT THE HELL? NOT PORNISH PIXIES. NOT PORNISH PIXIES. NOT PORNISH PIXIES!!

How come a week ago when people were asking LJ abuse if they were going to have a crackdown, they denied it????

*tearful*

Date: 2007-05-29 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolaraincoat.livejournal.com
Se, the funny thing for me is that although I have a lot of friends involved with Pornish Pixies, I hadn't looked at it in years. And most of the comms on this list? I'd never even heard of them.

And yet I am furious. GRRRRR!!! ARRRGHHH!!!

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Date: 2007-05-29 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alya1989262.livejournal.com
lol_porn shows up as suspended for me.

Date: 2007-05-29 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolaraincoat.livejournal.com
Right, thanks, I'll fix that!

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Date: 2007-05-29 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calli-thaala.livejournal.com
I don't know you, but a friend linked me to this entry. Thank you for keeping track of this stuff.

Date: 2007-05-29 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolaraincoat.livejournal.com
You're welcome! Please pass along anything you see that I've missed.

Date: 2007-05-29 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raynedanser.livejournal.com
I agree. Thank you for the running commentary of the ridiculousness of it all.

Date: 2007-05-29 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolaraincoat.livejournal.com
Thanks for reading! Please pass along anything you see that I've missed.

Date: 2007-05-29 11:38 pm (UTC)
jamoche: Prisoner's pennyfarthing bicycle: I am NaN (Default)
From: [personal profile] jamoche
I'm collecting LJ Abuse answers on my journal - screened, anonymous on - to document the places where logic has failed. It may be useful to send these on to LJ higher-ups once the dust has settled and they have the time to rethink their decisions.

Date: 2007-05-29 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolaraincoat.livejournal.com
Wow, great idea! I'll link in this post if you don't mind.

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Date: 2007-05-29 11:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] cathexys.livejournal.com
re eta8: heidi's post seems to be flocked

Date: 2007-05-30 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolaraincoat.livejournal.com
She unlocked it! which was awfully kind of her.

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Date: 2007-05-30 12:22 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] elfflame
According to the popup boxes I get when I scroll over the user's name, hp incest has merely been deleted. Still not good, tho.

Date: 2007-05-30 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolaraincoat.livejournal.com
Sorry, I wrote badly - I meant that yes, they deleted themselves like Daily Deviant, but unlike Daily Deviant, I don't know whether they did that in repsonse to this mess or not.

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Date: 2007-05-30 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joesther.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] hpslash is gone, too. This is ridiculous. I'm sorry. Just ridiculous.

Date: 2007-05-30 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ktnb81.livejournal.com
That says it was deleted, not suspended.

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Date: 2007-05-30 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] domtheknight.livejournal.com
Hi, linked here by friend of a friend, don't know if anyone mentioned this yet or not but [livejournal.com profile] sg1_rps has been deleted for a couple months now, by the mod, who I think didn't want to maintain it anymore, so that one is definitely unrelated.

Date: 2007-05-30 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyndasty.livejournal.com
I was the mod and owner of [livejournal.com profile] sg1_rps and deleted it many months back because of the lack of participation.

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Date: 2007-05-30 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterthunder.livejournal.com
WTF? They took [personal profile] allandsundry? Not cool. So very not cool.

Date: 2007-05-30 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterthunder.livejournal.com
Ahh, femme deleted [personal profile] allandsundry.

*should not comment before understanding the situation*

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Date: 2007-05-30 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iverin.livejournal.com
I've been poking around at the cached pages for some of the genuine(ly disgusting) pedo comms, and through unbanned members have found more banned comms. If you really want to put them up, I can compile a list. I guess it would be more for morbid curiosity than anything. I was hunting for a link between the offending journals and the HP comms, but only found links to [livejournal.com profile] shota. *shrug*

Date: 2007-05-30 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iverin.livejournal.com
Oh, and hello! I found my way here through some other posts...

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Date: 2007-05-30 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dorrie6.livejournal.com
If you're interested: http://www.greatestjournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=fandomtossed

Date: 2007-05-30 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolaraincoat.livejournal.com
I'll add a link to the post. Thanks for letting me know!

Date: 2007-05-30 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unperfectwolf.livejournal.com
You and [livejournal.com profile] catrinella should cross pollinate. You both [have points of interest (http://catrinella.livejournal.com/151812.html)] the other doesn't. Just sayin'.

Date: 2007-05-30 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolaraincoat.livejournal.com
Not to worry - we've checked in with each other. And I notice we both gave up and went to dinner at the same time, too. Hee!

Date: 2007-05-30 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] figliaperduta.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] jote has taken [livejournal.com profile] sirry and re-set it up at GreatestJournal (http://www.greatestjournal.com/~sirry). The LJ community of the same name has been deleted by [livejournal.com profile] jote.

Date: 2007-05-30 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolaraincoat.livejournal.com
Thanks! I've added that to the post.

If you're collecting names of the deleted

Date: 2007-05-30 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cheshyre
I saw in comments on fandomwank that
LOOKS LIKE LJ USER=ONEWAVEBREAKS HAS BEEN SUSPENDED TODAY BECAUSE OF HER LISTED INTERESTS. GOOGLE DOESN'T BRING UP HER LIVEJOURNAL PROFILE, BUT SOMEONE ON HER FLIST SAYS SHE WAS A MEMBER OF SEVERAL SURVIVOR COMMS AND HER MYSPACE PROFILE LISTS THINGS LIKE Books 'A Child Called "It": One Child's Courage to Survive' by Dave Pelzer

Confirmed

Date: 2007-05-30 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cheshyre
Via a new account she left a comment here

Date: 2007-05-30 03:44 am (UTC)

Date: 2007-05-30 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xphoenixrising.livejournal.com
So this is what the TOS says for us (http://xphoenixrising.livejournal.com/128074.html)

Date: 2007-05-30 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] setsunamoriarty.livejournal.com
Just thought I'd let everyone know that there's been a petition started by lunaticsocko which can be found here at petitionspot.com (http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/MLJS)

Date: 2007-05-30 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylifewithin.livejournal.com
I wanted to know . . what content can see you deleted?

I locked all story . . is that all that needs to be done?

.. what else?

Date: 2007-05-30 04:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lolaraincoat.livejournal.com
Er, I'm not sure what you're asking here. But as far as I can see (and I am absolutely not an expert) the best way to avoid deletion of your journal is to edit your interests lists and lock or delete any potentially controversial content.

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Date: 2007-05-30 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danniisupernova.livejournal.com
I think it's good that they're catching real people, but they should really be looking closer! (now I'm worried about [livejournal.com profile] sylar_claire because she's like, 15 on the show. But the P/aire thing is probably more of an incest target....I dunno, this all seems quite dodgy to me. :(

Date: 2007-05-30 05:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bookshop.livejournal.com

I'd like to ask that anyone on this post who knows someone who had their journal unfairly deleted or their community suspended - a journal they owned - as a result of the purge please contact me by email, bookshop at lj. You can also contact [livejournal.com profile] femmequixotic. Thank you.
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